Mick Mars was not happy with Mötley Crüe over the use of pads

Carmine Apis claims

Mick Mars on stage with Mötley Crüe in 2022

Author: Scott CollotanPosted 7 hours ago

Mick Mars was unhappy with Mötley Crüe’s Stadium Tour over the band’s alleged use of pads, claims Carmine Appis.

Mick Mars played the first leg of Mötley Crüe’s Stadium Tour with Def Leppard in November, but last October he pulled out of the tour due to his ongoing painful battle with ankylosing spondylitis. John 5 replaced Mars on Crüe’s 2023 tour dates.

In a new interview with Ultimate Guitar, respected rock drummer Carmine Appice revealed that Mick Mars told him he was unhappy with Mötley Crüe’s concerts last year.

“Well, I’ll tell you what I talked to Mick and he said, ‘When I was on the Stadium Tour, I wasn’t happy,'” Appis said.

“Basically everything was on tape; everything was planned and in the end a lot of nonsense. And Mick is a pretty good player and so to let him loose now and play the way he wants, it was never going to work for him.

“The truth is, everything was weird for a while with Motley Crue and Mick didn’t like that it was all on record. Mick told me that people who came to see him could tell that everything was pre-recorded and that everything was on tape.

Appis continued: “When you play in a stadium like this, you can hear a lot of things coming on the monitors or whatnot. And with Vince’s vocals, the bass, the drums, the guitars and all the other stuff, it was obvious that everything was on record. And Mick was angry and said, “I can play these things. I want to play them. I don’t want to believe I’m playing them.

“So I think that’s one of the reasons why he said, ‘I’m done.’ Of course the illness he has doesn’t help and doesn’t make life any easier on tour, but Mick can play anything and he’s allowed to.”

Asked by Ultimate Guitar if Mars got along with the rest of the band, Carmine Appice said, “No, he didn’t. He had his own means of travel and traveled alone in a bus while others flew everywhere. He said, “Man, these guys are pissing money flying to every gig.” Everyone was busy trying to be rock stars, and Mick just wanted to play the music.

“Mick wasn’t interested in wasting time and money flying everywhere, so he traveled by bus. Their way of life is different from his and so there were many disagreements. I think it just ended.

“They must have done their last tour and then came back. Then they did the Stadium Tour and that was obviously supposed to be the last. So when they came back again, he said, “You can do it. I won’t date you for that.”

Mötley Crüe and Def Leppard’s joint stadium tour is coming to the UK and Ireland this summer for dates in Sheffield, London, Lytham, Dublin and Glasgow. Head over to Planet Rock Tickets to buy tickets.

Bands that toured again after their “last” tour:

The status quo

Plagued by inter-band tensions, Status Quo embarked on the 10-week End of the Road swansong tour in 1984 with the so-called Farewell Concert, which took place at the Milton Keynes Bowl on 21 July. Francis Rossi told Classic Rock years later, “Everybody was high and hating each other, and I had started drinking tequila on that tour. I don’t remember that show (in Milton Keynes) at all – encores or anything; falling flat on their backs at one point.” Continuing to work only in the studio, Status Quo were persuaded to return live by Bob Geldof when he asked them to open Live Aid at London’s Wembley Stadium on 13 July 1985. Status Quo returned to live performances after that historic show and after Rick After Parfitt’s untimely death in 2016, Francis Rossi continues to carry the Status Quo name to this day.


Following the resounding success of their Alive/Worldwide Tour and Psycho Circus World Tour with original members Peter Criss and Ace Frehley, KISS embarked on The Farewell Tour, taking in concerts in North America, Japan and Australia throughout 2000 and early 2001. Explaining , that KISS wanted to go out on a high, Paul Stanley said at the time: “We’re champions again, let’s retire on top, and we felt there’s nothing worse than someone leaving and not being able to say goodbye , so this tour is really about the fans and celebrating the whole history of the band.” KISS went on to perform at the closing ceremony of the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, and in 2003 they toured with Aerosmith with Eric Singer and Tommy Thayer added to their ranks KISS are currently in the midst of their second farewell tour, The End of the Road World Tour Despite taking part in a 2019 UK arena tour and headlining Download Festival 2022, KIS S declared ‘SUCCESSFUL’ part of UK in 2023.

Ozzy Osbourne

In early 1992, Ozzy Osbourne, then 43, said he was retiring from performing to spend more time with his family. He embarked on the 64-date No More Tours in June 1992, and the trek culminated in two historic concerts at the Costa Mesa Pacific Ampitheatre on November 14 and 15, where Ozzy was joined by special guests Black Sabbath with Rob Halford on vocals. After Ozzy’s set at the final concert, he reunited on stage with Black Sabbath to perform four songs – ‘Black Sabbath’, ‘Fairies Wear Boots’, ‘Iron Man’ and ‘Paranoid’. What seemed like a fitting farewell for Ozzy came to an end just days later when he changed his mind and said he was “bored of retirement.” Ozzy embarked on the brilliantly titled Retirement Sucks Tour in 1995. Ozzy began his second farewell tour – No More Tours II – in 2018 and is scheduled to finally visit the UK in 2023.


The Who played a farewell tour of North America in late 1982, with Roger Daltrey saying of tour life at a press conference: “It’s a nightmare. We can’t get any bigger than we are… It’s good to go out on top.” John Entwistle was adamantly against The Who stopping touring, while Pete Townshend wanted The Who to become a studio band like The Beatles. The Who’s “last show” took place at Toronto’s Maple Leaf Gardens on December 17, and their final US concert at the Richfield Coliseum in Cleveland, Ohio was immortalized on the live album “Who’s Last”. Just like Status Quo, The Who reformed for Live Aid in 1985 and four years later reunited for a world tour.


Scorpions played a spectacular three-year farewell tour between 2010 and 2012, featuring more than 200 concerts. However, the Scorpions changed their decision to retire from the road before the tour even ended. Singer Klaus Meine later explained that the German hard rockers were having “too much fun” to quit and said that playing for new generations of Scorpions fans was “motivating and inspiring”. Guitarist Matthias Jabs later said the decision to announce a farewell tour was “stupid”, adding: “It gets a bit ridiculous when you say (you’re retiring from touring) and don’t do it, so we’re not doing it again.”

Judas Priest

In December 2010, Judas Priest announced that their upcoming Epitaph farewell world tour would be their last. Rob Halford explained: “We’re not the first band to say goodbye, it’s just the way everyone comes at some point and we’re going to say a few more things early next year, so I think the main thing that just what we want to ask everyone to consider is don’t be sad about it, start celebrating and enjoying all the great things we’ve done in Judas Priest.” KK Downing left Judas Priest before the start of the tour and their last gig took place at London’s HMV Hammersmith Apollo on 26 May 2012. A year later, Halford said that “this isn’t the last world tour” and explained that the band had “re-ignited” since hiring Richie Faulkner. Judas Priest kicked off the Redeemer of Souls tour in October 2014

Nine inch nails

In 2009, Nine Inch Nails frontman Trent Reznor confirmed that he was withdrawing from the tour. He told fans: “NIN as a live band on tour or a live band that’s on the road all the time is stopping. I just reached the point where it invaded every other aspect of my life. I would never want to be Gene Simmons, an old man who puts on makeup to entertain the kids, like a clown going to work. In my paranoia, I’m afraid that if I don’t stop this, this might happen.” The final concert took place at the Wiltern Theater in Los Angeles on September 10, 2009. In 2013, Trent Reznor ended Nine Inch Nails’ hiatus from touring. , saying, “I’m going to take some flak for saying I’m not going to (tour) again, but I’ve changed my mind. I feel much more energized and inspired than when I said I didn’t want to do it anymore.”

Meat pie

Back in 2013, the late great Marvin Lee Addai – aka Meat Loaf – insisted that the Last at Bat Tour in the UK and Europe would definitely be his swan song trek, citing ill health. He told The Guardian: “I had 18 concussions. My balance is broken. I had a knee replacement. They have to replace my other one. Two weeks before the knee surgery, I literally could not walk from the bedroom to the kitchen. I was taken to the hospital by ambulance to have my knee replaced. And when they did, it was so damaged and torn that it would take a year to come back. It’s just the journey. I want to focus more on acting. That’s where I started and that’s where I’ll end. They won’t tie me back this time.” Meat Loaf performed over 30 concerts in North America in 2015 and 2016, but due to his failing health, he finally retired from live concerts. His last live performance was on the TV show Huckabee in the US in September 2021, where he performed 3 songs in front of a live audience.Sadly, he passed away just 4 months later.


In late 2016, Aerosmith announced that they were embarking on a tour next year called Aero-Vederci Baby! Tour – a play on the Italian word for goodbye, arrivalderci. The tour features 25 dates, including a headlining slot at Download Festival 2017. Before the tour was announced, guitarist Brad Whitford told Billboard, “We keep talking about what we might call a farewell tour, but based on Kiss’ approach, it might to last for three to five years. We’re seriously looking into it, just based on our age and everything.” Ultimately, the tour didn’t last for several years—Aerosmith instead played Deuces are Wild in Las Vegas, though many of their international dates were canceled.


Unlike a number of rock acts on this list who changed their mind to retire from the road shortly after their “last” shows, we have to give Cream credit for calling it quits 37 years before returning. Eric Clapton, Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker performed two farewell concerts at the Royal Albert Hall in London on 25 and 26 November 1968, the second show being released as a live video ‘Farewell Concert’. The trio played again at their induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1993, before reuniting properly for four dates at the Royal Albert Hall in May 2005. Buoyed by the success of the RAH concerts, Cream played three nights at Madison Square Garden in New York in October 2005, but old tensions between the band resurfaced and they broke up for good. Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker died in 2014 and 2019 respectively.

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